Incoming JB Rule Changes for May

[Beast]

This is a must for jb:

Any orders given during the warden sings are not counted as real commands.



Javert keeps singing his commands and makes it very, very hard to hear him. Even to the point where his mic is inaudible.
Everyone keeps saying they are freekilled by Javert but maybe on the off-chance he has a reason, we can't hear a thing he's said so we can't tell if it was actually a freekill or not.

Javert freehits when warden very often, he mass freekills reds when he's warden, and he sings while he's warden. Can we please eliminate one of Javert's problems?

 

[Dixie Normas]

I really don't see how confusion arises in this situation, they should either remember to say it applies to all commands, or say it with every command they give or else reds have a lot of leeway. When wardens gain more experience, they give their commands better and smoother and "confusion" decreases over time.

Personally I'm not a fan of next round LRs in general because I prefer that each player is off to the same start at the beginning of every round, but I do like your trial idea. I think we have a lot of rules going in for May, so maybe bring up this discussion for the next rule update when we can get more opinions and discussion. Honestly the best way to stop the frequency of rebellions is to have a blue team with experience, communication, and coordination. That and have the blue team play useful classes like heavy, soldier, and scout, not sniper and spy. Most of the red rebellions I have seen recently aren't because the reds have good plans and strategy, it's because the blues suck, to put it bluntly... in most cases.

Yeah, all the Wardens will get better over time. I am just tired of having to say it every round instead of it just being in the /jbrules as an Implied Command is all. I feel like it would just save a lot of headaches.

Oh no, everybody would be off to the same start in that they will all play the same mini-game/get the same Orders. But yeah, okay, I wll save ot for the next rule discussion then! And yeah, that is how I spark most rebellions is through the incompetency of the BLUs 95% of the time, the other 5% is my shitty skill XD

 

[Dixie Normas]

This is a must for jb:

Any orders given during the warden sings are not counted as real commands.



Javert keeps singing his commands and makes it very, very hard to hear him. Even to the point where his mic is inaudible.
Everyone keeps saying they are freekilled by Javert but maybe on the off-chance he has a reason, we can't hear a thing he's said so we can't tell if it was actually a freekill or not.

Javert freehits when warden very often, he mass freekills reds when he's warden, and he sings while he's warden. Can we please eliminate one of Javert's problems?

This should go under the Admin reporting Thread... But even with what you said, all Javert is trying to do is have FUN. That is what JB/TF2 is for is FUN. Some of us, me included often, get WAAAAAY too wrapped up in the competitive atmosphere, and I think that is why we have so many rules.

 

[Beast]

This should go under the Admin reporting Thread... But even with what you said, all Javert is trying to do is have FUN. That is what JB/TF2 is for is FUN.

I accidentally forgot to save the screenshots I took and forgot what I saved a demo under. Plus I feel like I spam that part of the forum.

Yes JB and tf2 were made for fun, but it's not so fun when you have to watch other players play the game that you were randomly killed in. He also takes the sliver of fun in warden away when he lies and freekills the last of the reds just so he can go warden next round and have the time of his life. It's more of himself having fun in a selfish way since he isn't letting the reds enjoy Jailbreak and it's various minigames.

 

[Beast]

Lets see. I do votes for my singing and they pass.

Never seen a single vote for you to sing.

And also you are the only one who voices against dramtically.

You obviously don't read chat.

 

[Beast]

I go with the majority.

Opinions are like backsides, everyones got one.
So leave it.

1. The majority of JB only talk if it's part of warden's orders. Plus it's not fair since most people vote the first awnser to get rid of the menu and you usually "yes" is the first awnser so I doubt you put "no" as the first awnser.

So you aren't getting legit awnsers, you are getting random awnsers.

2. Freedom of speech applies to the internet unless restricted by a superior. Last time I checked there's no "no oppinons rule"

 

[Bray]

No killing Reds for something they type in chat

• The only exceptions are for jeopardy and snitching
• Ex: A red who suggests an "invalid" minigame may not be killed.

No. Please.
No. ;-;

 

[Rei]

hm

 

[1769]

1. The majority of JB only talk if it's part of warden's orders. Plus it's not fair since most people vote the first awnser to get rid of the menu and you usually "yes" is the first awnser so I doubt you put "no" as the first awnser.

So you aren't getting legit awnsers, you are getting random awnsers.

2. Freedom of speech applies to the internet unless restricted by a superior. Last time I checked there's no "no oppinons rule"

Take this discussion elsewhere. If Javert causes server-wide trouble file a report, if Javert is only annoying you then deal with it yourself.

Anyways there are still a lot of rules in red that I'd like your opinions on.

 

[1769]

YOU DESTROYED THE LITERAL GAME

My pleasure

I actually have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[Rei]

If there are 2 reds alive, the warden may choose to give a double LR. It must be the exact same LR that applies to all the blues at the same time.

Good idea, a little fun, a partner LR.

Blue's may NOT leave the general vicinity of the blues and reds unless they are chasing a rebeller or are given explicit permission by the warden to hunt down a rebeller leave. You may be slain for wandering off without a valid reason.

I enfore this to an extent already, if a blu just runs off to look at the map, he's hurting the BLU team and in general is useless. Please add this.

Hunger games may only be played once per map every 3 rounds.

Hunger games is essentially mass arena, the only difference is, no one can see what they do, I suggest that when doing hunger games, do it in a big, open area. f.ex Chretien: allow the reds to fight in the courtyard, blues guard all doors. If hungergames is not controlled, it's basically warday, or "hey guys lets not do what the warden says because we have guns"

First Reaction Last Reaction may only be played if there are 2 reds left alive or less than 2 5 minutes left in the round or as a RED's last request.

Good suggestion, FRLR is heavily in favor depending on location anyways - and with alot of players playing FRLR, blus sometimes kill the wrong red.

Under MOD

Everything under this section is completely understandable, and should be put in. If mods misuse this command, they should get a warning, and eventually, demote them if they keep misusing it.

!firewarden - Will fire the current warden if enough players type it

This is already a thing.

 

[Rei]

YOU DESTROYED THE LITERAL GAME

how?

 

[1769]

This is already a thing.

Thanks for the feedback. It's a thing, but a lot of people don't know that command exists so putting it in the rules might shine some more light on it.

and with alot of players playing FRLR, blus sometimes kill the wrong red.

This is one of the biggest problems of FR/LR and I've seen countless freekills when a blue kills someone who they thought was last even though the warden said "warden kills only". It also really sucks for players with bad ping, because no matter what they do they are going to lose to a player who has a better connection. It's like a heavy and a scout racing against each other, the scout will always win just like the player with better ping will always win FR/LR.

According to the rule in red, reds may not be killed for tying things in chat.
Fun killer.

That's still needs to be discussed before it goes in. The reason I suggested it is because we shouldn't be limiting what players type in chat. What kills the fun is when a warden kills a red because he made a joke when asked to type a minigame in chat. I've seen strict wardens kill players because they didn't spell a word correctly which is total B.S. Smart ass things like that are ok in jeopardy (literally for people who are smart), but elsewhere JB should be more laid back and not have players killed for the stupidest of reasons.

 

[Rei]

That's still needs to be discussed before it goes in. The reason I suggested it is because we shouldn't be limiting what players type in chat. What kills the fun is when a warden kills a red because he made a joke when asked to type a minigame in chat. I've seen strict wardens kill players because they didn't spell a word correctly which is total B.S. Smart ass things like that are ok in jeopardy (literally for people who are smart), but elsewhere JB should be more laid back and not have players killed for the stupidest of reasons.

How about, REDs may not be killed for typing in chat, unless it's a part of a game.

 

[Rei]

It's like a heavy and a scout racing against each other, the scout will always win

Unless he has the boxing gloves of running, if a scout has the Babyface blaster with full charge because of whatever reason though, it's basically win

 

[1769]

How about, REDs may not be killed for typing in chat, unless it's a part of a game.

So something like: "Reds may not be killed for something they type in chat unless the warden makes a game and explicitly states that what they type can result in them being killed". I still don't like the idea of the warden having the power to restrict chat and that rule is to open ended because "Jailbreak is a game so everyone who typed anything in chat is KOS". I think my original phrasing gets the point across well. At least in jeopardy they have to jump on the podium before they get killed for something they type in chat.

Unless he has the boxing gloves of running, if a scout has the Babyface blaster with full charge because of whatever reason though, it's basically win

It was an analogy.

 

[Rei]

o something like: "Reds may not be killed for something they type in chat unless the warden makes a game and explicitly states that what they type can result in them being killed". I still don't like the idea of the warden having the power to restrict chat and that rule is to open ended because "Jailbreak is a game so everyone who typed anything in chat is KOS". I think my original phrasing gets the point across well. At least in jeopardy they have to jump on the podium before they get killed for something they type in chat.

Killing people for typing a minigame in chat is stupid, killing someone for not participating in the literal game however, is fine.

 

[Dic Soupcan]

YOU DESTROYED THE LITERAL GAME

Oh NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What ever shall you do, not being able to kill off most of the reds on the yellow line! You might actually have to play a... oh no... a MAP MINIGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol

 

[Rei]

a MAP MINIGAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What's that? I only know that we can do FRLR, HG, Simon says and literal game, and commands to go somewhere at a certain time.

 

[NerfYinYang]

For the love of God, if you are going to have Jarate as bait, MAKE A REASON THAT THE SNIPER THAT THREW IT SHOULD CARE!